Build N' Brawl wrestling figures head swaps onto GI Joes???

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I appologize if this isn't where this question belongs, but seemed like the best forum for it.

Anyway, has anyone swapped out heads from the 3-3/4" Build N' Brawl wrestling figures onto G.I. Joe figures? I checked these out a few weeks ago at Walmart but the heads looked a tad larger than Joe heads so I passed on buying any. But on the Joedios.com website there are some Build N' Brawl heads on Joe/Cobra bodies and they look pretty decent.

Has anyone here tried this?
 
I use Chris Jerico for Duke....



http://www.joecustoms.com/customs/customs_specific_item.php?kind=figure&uid=930&id=8818
 

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That would be a good Chuckles head. I don't see it so much for my vision of Duke, but it doesn't not work for Duke.

I don't know this dude's name, but I bought him over 2 years ago because I didn't like the Resolute Roadblock head.

 

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That's ^^ what I did too...that head looks more like Sunbow RB than any other head ever...and the expression makes that head look even cooler...
 

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Those don't look bad!

Of course when I went to Walmart and Target today, they didn't have any Build N' Brawl figures. They were there less than a month ago, so I'm not sure if they're even going to be available anymore.
 

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I don't think they all need to be Dremeled out, though. I think I just popped on both my Sarge and (Roadblock? What the hell is the guy's name?) heads after pulling them off the BnB bodies. of course the BnB necks have an extra joint, so you need needle-nose pliers, but I think once I popped off the head, I pulled out the extra neck joint from the head/neck (whatever half kept it, I can't remember) and it just worked like a regular Joe head without modding.

They may not all be the same, though.
 

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The Randy Orton head I used the head ball was really smaller than a hip joint ball. Maybe they do differ.

Same with the few UFC guys I used. They all had this really tiny barbell thing holding them on.



Bobby Lashley for Roadblock?
 

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YES! Bobby Lashley. I think I had to shave off some facial hair and paint on some others, but I didn't do anything to the head besides that. It's a pretty great RB.

Yeah, the head's got a weird metal connector piece that connects the neck to the head. It's actually a pretty good design, I wish the Joes would use it, at least for snipers and such like Lowlight. The MU neck is similiar in function, but not quite the same in design.

You still have to heat the figure's head/neck up to pop it off, but using pliers, you should be able to pop out the extra joint (at least on the Sarge and Lashley figures) and salvage it for later repair, if you want to reassemble the figure. And I think just heating up the head allowed it to pop onto the Joe neckpost without any drilling.
 

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I have a few BnB cast heads in my store, they seem to work out pretty well for use with other 1:18 figures. I have Sarge, and... well I hate wrestling, so I have like 3 or 4 other guys that are wrestlers. I don't think I have that Bobby Lashey guy or whatever his name is, tho
 

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Those don't look bad!

Of course when I went to Walmart and Target today, they didn't have any Build N' Brawl figures. They were there less than a month ago, so I'm not sure if they're even going to be available anymore.

That they were there a month ago is awfully telling about your store. BnB ended years ago, and another company altogether has the WWE license.

Now, what you are likely to find are the 4" UFC figures that are at Family Dollar. Same company that did the BnB line, so they're still usable with Joes.
 

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I bought the 4" UFC Tito Ortiz figure today at Toys R' Us on clearance. I placed his head on one of the G.I. Joe Retaliation Trooper's bodies and it's a little too large, and noticeably larger than the standard Joe head. It's a shame because he has that military look to him. But his head is obviously oversized for the Joe body.
 

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Yeah, that's a drawback of some of the BnB heads. They're like watermelons on top of Joe bodies. Generally, those work best on bigger bodies, like Sarge and Bobby Lashley. Both of those are on the Benchpress/Roadblock bodies, so they fit a lot better.
 

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That's what I figured, too. But I'm looking for "ordinary" heads for the non-descript Green Shirts, Pit Commandos, and Pit Troopers, who have the smaller bodies, although the Pit Troopers are a little bulkier.
 

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Star Wars heads are your best bet for the smaller guys, but those damned figures are expensive! Although those TRU Greenshirts, if that's what you're using, those guys are so dated now that you may want to abandon "upgrading" them with new heads. I bought like 2-3 packs on clearance, and I doubt I'll ever use them.

The Pit Commando is a horse, though. BnB heads would probably work on them.
 

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No, I'm referring to the G.I. Joe Retaliation Troopers. Yeah, definately those TRU Greenshirts are outdated. I have several of them but they're in the fodder box.

I'll have to try Tito's head on a Pit Trooper's body just to see how it looks. I have no extras of those; one has Sgt. Slaughter's head on it and the other is supporting Slaughters Renegades Taurus' head.

I'll look for the wrestler figures at DG. Thanks for the heads-up!
 
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The wrestlers at DG look to be static and I think are only 3 inches tall, but the heads appear to look like they will work. Someone here used CM Punk and it looked good.

I think the DG ones are , Kane, Cena, Punk, Mysterio and the Rock.
 

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What the hell makes them "outdated"?

The old Snake Eyes torso and the Duke arms? And the heads they used are some of the worst early Joe heads. Duke as a ginger, and then the other awkward repaints like Breaker and his gigantic skull? I hate the ones I have. If you want 'em, I'll sell you mine for cheap just to get rid of them. I just gotta find them, they're somewhere in one of my closets.
 

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I agree with the snake eyes body with those horrible manboobs and some of those heads are tiny, then that one*huge*one. I love the retaliation trooper. I posted a pic of my punk custom in the workbench thread. I'll post it here when I get to my computer. I have about 10 wwe b&b heads. I can take some pics if you want. The only problem is some are also super tiny, and some HUGE! Also, most have "I'm about to crap my pants" facial expressions. Might be good for some diorama pics, like John showed with his Duke, but might look odd just standing there next to some regular Joes.
 

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The wrestlers at DG look to be static and I think are only 3 inches tall, but the heads appear to look like they will work. Someone here used CM Punk and it looked good.

I think the DG ones are , Kane, Cena, Punk, Mysterio and the Rock.

Reports are that Cena and Mysterio are no-gos. Too small.

What the hell makes them "outdated"?

What doesn't make them outdated? They're just like 90% of the 25th, and are outstripped by even the RoC stuff.
 

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No, I'm referring to the G.I. Joe Retaliation Troopers. Yeah, definately those TRU Greenshirts are outdated. I have several of them but they're in the fodder box.

I'll have to try Tito's head on a Pit Trooper's body just to see how it looks. I have no extras of those; one has Sgt. Slaughter's head on it and the other is supporting Slaughters Renegades Taurus' head.

I'll look for the wrestler figures at DG. Thanks for the heads-up!

Here ya go. I actually didn't have to drill the heads out(some were already drilled out that I used on older customs), all I did was heat them up with the hairdryer till they were almost too hot to touch and then jam them on the trooper body. Hope this helps ya...












and... of course, my fav...

 

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HHH looks like he's deucing on himself.



And I think I just found the head sculpt I need for my Sub-Saharan Rapscallion custom!
 

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What doesn't make them outdated? They're just like 90% of the 25th, and are outstripped by even the RoC stuff.

The detail of the sculpt is no less than the newer stuff. There are no major differences in articulation. The only difference in articulation is the wrists.
 

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Me too... Look at the Joetrooper pic I just posted and look at the detailed chest and the way the articulation is worked into the mold and how nice it looks.. and then go grab your 25th SE sweater body and look at the manboobs and tell me they're just as good.
 

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Me too... Look at the Joetrooper pic I just posted and look at the detailed chest and the way the articulation is worked into the mold and how nice it looks.. and then go grab your 25th SE sweater body and look at the manboobs and tell me they're just as good.

There's barely any details on that chest at all. There's a few wrinkles in the clothes, the zipper, and the pecs. And the pecs don't even make sense here. As far as the joints, the torso joint is just as visible. There is no more intricate detail in the sculpt over the other.
 
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Here's a better example to show how dated the 25th bodies are.

I'm not saying they're horrible, I still like them, but if I had to choose, I'd take the 30th or newer stuff over the 25th. In fact, I have about 5-10 WIPs that had the 25th bodies I look at now and don't even want to finish them because how I'd rather get updated bodies instead.
 

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It's a mix of things. I don't think all the 25th parts are outdated, but a lot of parts definitely are. And range of motion is surely better on the newer sculpts. Elbows are a HUGE difference, and the shoulders seem to fit better on the torso.

One thing they seem to do on the newer ones is have smaller waists with slightly too large hip joints, but almost all of them have webgear or a vest that properly hides it and bulks them up.

For me, it's not so much the sculpt work detail, but the proportions for the most part. Stalker at least still looks okay because the camo helps hide some of the inconsistencies, but that Joe greenshirt is all sorts of awkward. That SE torso was way too short, and all the legs/arms that go along with it look strange now.

There may be the same amount of detail in some of the sculpts, but the shapes are better. I don't know how better to explain it, but it really stands out on bare flesh and heads/helmets. Take the Gung Ho torso and arms, and compare it to the newer Quick Kick bare torso and arms. Or 25th Roadblock's arms compared to Retaliation, or even Resolute RB's arms. The form and structure is more defined and looks more human, and less cartoony.