marauder wave 6?

[Obi-Shinobi]

With the amount of people defending MJ's non-scale assortments, I'm sure he'll get the funding he needs within the deadline. Maybe he'll take into consideration our complaints. I doubt it, but I'd really like to be proven wrong.

How true. It's no wonder really, considering that most people (from what I've read) on Shitstank think that the Joe DTC Humvee is the better version compared to the other companies offerings.

It's that "bigger is better" mentality.

And based on what that phrase usually refers to, it's no surprise coming from those retards.

 

[Giga Bread]

Well they didn't take my comment on FB into consideration.

 

[K-Tiger]

Think I'll go order some of Falcone's hardware in "protest", no need to wait until next Spring for them, either.

 

[Giga Bread]

Think I'll go order some of Falcone's hardware in "protest", no need to wait until next Spring for them, either.

Why do you think they're doing kick starter? People are less likely to buy a competitor's when they have money invested for something coming later.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

It's that "bigger is better" mentality.

Funny that theyd prefer the Hasbro Skystriker to the JSI F-14 because "it's too big."

 

[fogger1138]

I don't hate Marauder's stuff - it's not ALL out of scale. (Right? Don't tell me if it is, I can live with it if I don't know) I just don't think I can do a Kickstarter because I don't want to buy the oversized stuff from them.

I do like the products that they get right, though.

This reminds me of a problem I have with the hobby, too - I'm perfectly fine with stuff until someone like K-tiger or Obi points out that it's wrong or out of scale or inaccurate or whatever, and then it ruins it for me. You bunch of bastards and your facts. Leave me in my ignorance!

 

[Giga Bread]

Funny that theyd prefer the Hasbro Skystriker to the JSI F-14 because "it's too big."

Well yeah, they can't imagine it being taken down by MJ's FOS

 

[K-Tiger]

I don't hate Marauder's stuff - it's not ALL out of scale. (Right? Don't tell me if it is, I can live with it if I don't know) I just don't think I can do a Kickstarter because I don't want to buy the oversized stuff from them.

I do like the products that they get right, though.

This reminds me of a problem I have with the hobby, too - I'm perfectly fine with stuff until someone like K-tiger or Obi points out that it's wrong or out of scale or inaccurate or whatever, and then it ruins it for me. You bunch of bastards and your facts. Leave me in my ignorance!

Not everything is off.

It's a bit problematic given a 1:1 gun would look a different size if it was in, say, Wilt Chamberlain's hands, your hands and then in the hands of a 5' woman. Perhaps if Hasbro wasn't making everyone the equivalent of 6'+

 

[Giga Bread]

The old AK47s he makes are close enough for me. They're about 4mms too big on the length but considering only Blue Shirts carry them, they look fine.

 

[K-Tiger]

boy, there sure is some needed items in the "stretch" levels. Some items I'd hazard to say should be in the actual series itself. Then again there's a lot of rehashing, too.

 

[fogger1138]

Yeah, the stretch levels have the best stuff. That's no doubt why it's there, to get people to go that high.

 

[K-Tiger]

They should make the goal, but I doubt they get passed the first or second stretch.

Too bad the TJ series doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

 

[Obi-Shinobi]

What a piece looks like in a given persons hands is irrelevant. What matters, is any inanimate object which has a predefined size can only be one specific size when scaled down.

This is the point, or fact, that many 'stankers can't grasp. They like to think that because all figures are not the same size (wow, just like the real world), the scale of a weapon can be "whatever" because it's all personal perception. "I like the way this gun looks in my figs hands".

By that mentality, an M4 held by a 10 yr old must be the right proportions, therefore it needs to "look" the same in an adults hands. It's viewed from a completely bass-ackwards perception of scale. Outcome: an oversized M4 being labeled 1:18th.

Not everyone cares about "accurate" scale, and I realize this fact. However, why do the people who do care, get so much static about it? Are "we" not allowed to want a better product? MJ has, or had, a fantastic opportunity to deliver that better product, since he's designing/producing it as a stand-alone product. He's 100% focused on the weapons, unlike say... Hasbro. That is why it bothers me as much as it does. There's no excuse.

For me personally, I hope someone else comes along and does it the right way.

BTW - I find it rather fucking funny how MGR's next proposed series includes the "HK416". I guess MJ couldn't make enough bullshit excuses for what the "FOS" was suppossed to be.

 

[Falcone]

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[fogger1138]

What a piece looks like in a given persons hands is irrelevant. What matters, is any inanimate object which has a predefined size can only be one specific size when scaled down.

I'd allow for a certain size range based on tolerances - within a few percent would be acceptable, no?

 

[Obi-Shinobi]

I'd allow for a certain size range based on tolerances - within a few percent would be acceptable, no?

If it were only a matter of a small percent, sure... I could live with that. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face - when a pistol grip equates to a 2x4, there's a fucking problem.

 

[K-Tiger]

Five of the 10 guns in the next wave are the same guns that I just released. That will make it difficult to make back my investment considering the project already has $1,200 in two days.

Yeah, I noticed that. *shakes head*

 

[fogger1138]

If it were only a matter of a small percent, sure... I could live with that. I'll say it until I'm blue in the face - when a pistol grip equates to a 2x4, there's a fucking problem.

That's a bit more than a few percent, though. roposetoast:

 

[XOC2008]

Five of the 10 guns in the next wave are the same guns that I just released. That will make it difficult to make back my investment considering the project already has $1,200 in two days.

Soon as I have a bit to spare, Falcone, I'll be buying some stuff from you.

 

[fogger1138]

Five of the 10 guns in the next wave are the same guns that I just released. That will make it difficult to make back my investment considering the project already has $1,200 in two days.

I guess we'll just have to buy more of yours, then.

 

[G.I.*EDDIE]

I don't hate Marauder's stuff - it's not ALL out of scale. (Right? Don't tell me if it is, I can live with it if I don't know) I just don't think I can do a Kickstarter because I don't want to buy the oversized stuff from them.

I do like the products that they get right, though.

This reminds me of a problem I have with the hobby, too - I'm perfectly fine with stuff until someone like K-tiger or Obi points out that it's wrong or out of scale or inaccurate or whatever, and then it ruins it for me. You bunch of bastards and your facts. Leave me in my ignorance!

YES!!!

 

[K-Tiger]

I'd tell you both to go buy a bunch of Osprey books, but they be hella fuckin' expensive and I've heard they've been known to have inaccurate info.

But you know there are plenty of guys with the knowledge (or Google-Fu) to get you the info you need!

 

[Obi-Shinobi]

Word to your mutha.

Interestingly enough, the pic of proposed guns on the MGR kickstarter page look to be about the right scale, on my screen - by naked eye-ballin'. I'm sure they'll grow by at least .25in+ by the time they get produced.

 

[Falcone]

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[Ridgeback]

Falcone, I will take a closer look at your shop tonight and place an order.
What is your delivery time these days?

 

[Falcone]

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[Ridgeback]

Placed my order a minute ago, paid by Paypal.

 

[Fled74]

I don't hate Marauder's stuff - it's not ALL out of scale. (Right? Don't tell me if it is, I can live with it if I don't know) I just don't think I can do a Kickstarter because I don't want to buy the oversized stuff from them.

I do like the products that they get right, though.

This reminds me of a problem I have with the hobby, too - I'm perfectly fine with stuff until someone like K-tiger or Obi points out that it's wrong or out of scale or inaccurate or whatever, and then it ruins it for me. You bunch of bastards and your facts. Leave me in my ignorance!

^THIS^

 

[Giga Bread]

I don't hate Marauder's stuff - it's not ALL out of scale. (Right? Don't tell me if it is, I can live with it if I don't know) I just don't think I can do a Kickstarter because I don't want to buy the oversized stuff from them.

I do like the products that they get right, though.

This reminds me of a problem I have with the hobby, too - I'm perfectly fine with stuff until someone like K-tiger or Obi points out that it's wrong or out of scale or inaccurate or whatever, and then it ruins it for me. You bunch of bastards and your facts. Leave me in my ignorance!

Kind of like when I realized after painting and detailing a bunch of shock trooper ak tacticals that the upper and lower receivers are badly modded ARs. I can't even look at the damn things anymore.

 

[fogger1138]

Kind of like when I realized after painting and detailing a bunch of shock trooper ak tacticals that the upper and lower receivers are badly modded ARs. I can't even look at the damn things anymore.

LA LA LA I'M NOT READING LA LA LA

 

[fogger1138]

So the Marauder kickstarter is fully funded as of the last day.

I did notice one thing that's a small comfort - there's an option for both the FN FAL and AKs74u to not be the same version as what Falcone did, which would give some variety (and not feel quite so much like they're trying to steal his business).

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-a-new-era-of-figure-and-gaming-miniatu/posts

The "final" design of the AKs74u Accessory will be DETERMINED by the participants in the kickstarter event. At the end of the event, if it is successful, each participant will receive a survey. One of the questions will be what TYPE of miniature plastic AKs74u accessory would they like for their gaming figures. The version that gets the "most votes" will be the version released (only ONE version of the accessory will be released, either the "classic" or the "rail").

The accessory could be the classic version:

Or the verson WITH "Rail" system (YES, the "uber-cool" silencer will ALSO be available, whether the "classic" or "Rail" system is released). The rail system would allow for customizing the item with a wide variety of removable grips, scopes and electronics.

Both the "Classic" version and "Rail" version of the accessory will have a WORKING stock. Either the accessory will have a "hinge" (if it won't be oversized) or each accessory will come with 2 (TWO) stocks. One stock that can be mounted on the accessory in the "extended" position and a 2nd stock that can be mounted on the accessory in the "folded" position.

In addition, the removable magazines will have the "finger" grip-ring on the bottom of the mag (true for whichever version is released, either "classic" or "rail" versions).

The final FNFal Accessory design will also be the CHOICE of those that participate in the kickstarter event (preference will be chosen if the event is successful through a survey to contributors). The accessory will either be the "classic" FNFAL version of the item with the traditonal "smooth" grip & fixed smooth stock, removable mag and a "working" carrying handle (handle will either work via a "hinge" or the removable carrying handle can be attached in the "extended" or "folded" position on the accessory) :

In addition, the "classic" version of the FNFAL has the option to be painted in the above "metal" color with "black" stock/front grip combination, "metal" color with "green" stock/front grip combination or the ever popular traditional "metal" color with "wood grain" stock/front grip as shown below:

The 2nd design option for the kickstarter participants to choose from is the FNFAL Paratrooper with "Rail" System version of the accessory:

The Paratrooper "Rail" version can be modified with removable grips, scopes and electronics. The stock will be foldable (either with a hinge) or will include 2 (TWO) differnet stock attachments (so the accessory can be used with stock either "extended" or the stock in the "folded" position). As with the "classic" version of the FNFAL, the ammo mag will be removable and the carrying handle can be positioned either extended or folded closed.

Again, final design will be decision of those participating in the Marauder GR kickstarter event.

 

[K-Tiger]

What if we wanted a para variant FAL (Midget) without all that tactifag crap on it?


Feh, it's still a wave full of repeats and guns we really don't need immediately. I'm happy they met the requirement so hell won't be freezing over before the wave hits, but it's not exciting. personally.

 

[fogger1138]

What if we wanted a para variant FAL (Midget) without all that tactifag crap on it?

Then you're screwed.

Feh, it's still a wave full of repeats and guns we really don't need immediately. I'm happy they met the requirement so hell won't be freezing over before the wave hits, but it's not exciting. personally.

True - but it's funded now, so it'd be nice if it wasn't at least a complete rehash of Falcone's stuff.

 

[K-Tiger]

I recon so. I guess I need to look into learing how to render 3D images, because the only way I'm gonna get guns that are interesting is to make them myself.

 

[Obi-Shinobi]

Yeah... they just made it in time. You'd think all those "hard core" HT backers would have done more for their beloved product, sooner. Man, I was really hoping this would fail. With Giga and Falcone, I know the scales and details will be right, or damn close to right at least. THAT is something that I as a potential customer, can not be guaranteed with MGR product. So why should I be supportive of a product that doesn't support my wants/needs as a customer? Case in point - with all the rehashing of existing shit, WHY didn't MJ re-do that hideously over-sized, out of proportion modular M4? Say what you will about the weapon being "overdone", but it IS the current rifle being used. How about getting that one "right" for once?

As for stealing ideas and such - yep, it happens. If you don't think MJ or anyone else doesn't pay attention to what others are talking about, or designing for release, you're sadly mistaken. Just look at MANY of the proposed models MGR has on the table - either already done, or being done by 1 of the before mentioned. With so many various weapon designs to choose from, is it just a coincidence? I mean... why buy a cast of a Tec-9, when you can buy an injection-molded ABS version? An AKs 74u with rails and mod add-ons, vs an AKs 74u with none of it? Same with the FN, Galil, etc.

And yes KT. If it's something YOU want, you'll most likely have to make yourself.

 

[Obi-Shinobi]

Oh, and I guess now all of the dumbasses will try to substantiate their claims that the FOS is in fact the HK417, with the proposed corrected HK416. Again... dumbasses.

 

[K-Tiger]

Indeed.

Though I'm puzzled by the popularity of the Tech 9 among Joe customizers.

 

[Obi-Shinobi]

You're mistaken. It's not "customizers" by definition. It's "casual collectors/displayers".

 

[K-Tiger]

Even then, they got enough mosquitoes in their ear to make the damn thing.

Do Joe customizers/displayers have a shitload of Los Angeles street gang or 1980's cartel thugs they have to arm?

 

[Slaymaker]

There is still 14 hours to go so I would not say they barely made it and the amount could still go up , though I doubt high enough to for stretch goals.

I like MJ's stuff, I like Falcone (I still need to place an order, brother) and Giga's stuff is cool too! (though I did not know one actually order them). Obi - I like your stuff you created to have cast as well. I like customizing and having fun and really dislike all the negativity that surrounds whether something is ARAH accurate or scale accurate or whatever else many of you want to argue about. Everyone should be in this hobby, whether it be collecting or customizing or both for their enjoyment, period. Constructive criticism is one thing - trying to help others improve is great, assuming it is presented in a helpful way. Criticizing because it is not what you like or what you want or how you think it should be is just plain mean. No other way to put it, if you don't like it, don't buy it. If you cannot say something nice, then move along.

Seems like MJ has a good customer base, I have at least 1 of everything he has made and I was pretty sure he'd make it. And yes, I am one of the supporters. Let the scathing remarks begin - pretty sure there will be some.