G.I.*JOE 3 discussion...
Thought we may as well get an early start on it since there's already talk of it...
Thought we may as well get an early start on it since there's already talk of it...
G.I.JOE 3 discussion
- Thread starter G.I.*EDDIE
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A few things I would like to see in #3
-LJ and Flint spend more time together and actually "hook up"
-A Bigger Joe team even if they are mainly background characters
-No Joes from the first movie(they all sucked)
-Destro with a mini reboot(which was already started in #2)
-New batch of villains. Major Bludd, Scrap Iron, Mindbender and BATS would be cool
-SE back story goes deeper with a war injury similar to the comics
-LJ and Flint spend more time together and actually "hook up"
-A Bigger Joe team even if they are mainly background characters
-No Joes from the first movie(they all sucked)
-Destro with a mini reboot(which was already started in #2)
-New batch of villains. Major Bludd, Scrap Iron, Mindbender and BATS would be cool
-SE back story goes deeper with a war injury similar to the comics
I'd be OK if they can Flint all together, I think the actor was the worst part, apart from the Blind Master. He was utterly forgettable.
More Joes would be good, I hope they don't jump back to ROC style with a huge base and tons of no-name Joes running around. I'd like to see them grow organically.. montage scene with them going from base to base recruiting the best of the best etc.
More Joes would be good, I hope they don't jump back to ROC style with a huge base and tons of no-name Joes running around. I'd like to see them grow organically.. montage scene with them going from base to base recruiting the best of the best etc.
Well, the Joe roster from ROC was lackluster at best, aside from Hawk, Duke, Snake Eyes and Scarlett. Are you fucking kidding me? Breaker, Ripcord, Heavy Duty, Cover-Girl? Not one of them should've been in the first Joe flick. I don't give a rat's ass if Breaker was an original Joe, he's boring as shit. And let's make the Comm guy a fucking middle-eastern looking dude. Way to go, stereotypes.
Retaliation was bigger names, but only fucking 3 of them, plus the few returning guys from 1. They had the opportunity to throw in some more familiar names, yet we get Colton's no-name crew and Mouse. Yawn.
I wanna see fucking GI Joes in a fucking GI Joe movie. I'm not talking all 605 "active" members from the ARAH canon, but can we get 15-20 "named" guys in a few teams, doing different tasks? Something like a recognizable Joe force from Resolute, with a few background guys tossed in for flavor. They can have support "greenshirts" but as just military backup, not specifically Joe members. That never made sense to me.
As for Cobra, I'd be happy to see Bludd, the Twins, and Destro return. Maybe with his IGs. And Cobra needs to be a goddamn threat, not 20 Cobras with 2-3 tanks, a hover craft and a few helicopters.
It's like ROC was too big and ridiculous to be an elite fighting force, and they pulled it back too much for Retaliation that they lost any sense of scale.
If they set up something with Serpentor, that better be for a fourth film, because the last thing they need to do is go the route of Dark Knight Rises, X3, or Spider-man 3, where 1 is meh, 2 is amazing, and 3 is just everything thrown at the screen that the studio could muster.
Retaliation was bigger names, but only fucking 3 of them, plus the few returning guys from 1. They had the opportunity to throw in some more familiar names, yet we get Colton's no-name crew and Mouse. Yawn.
I wanna see fucking GI Joes in a fucking GI Joe movie. I'm not talking all 605 "active" members from the ARAH canon, but can we get 15-20 "named" guys in a few teams, doing different tasks? Something like a recognizable Joe force from Resolute, with a few background guys tossed in for flavor. They can have support "greenshirts" but as just military backup, not specifically Joe members. That never made sense to me.
As for Cobra, I'd be happy to see Bludd, the Twins, and Destro return. Maybe with his IGs. And Cobra needs to be a goddamn threat, not 20 Cobras with 2-3 tanks, a hover craft and a few helicopters.
It's like ROC was too big and ridiculous to be an elite fighting force, and they pulled it back too much for Retaliation that they lost any sense of scale.
If they set up something with Serpentor, that better be for a fourth film, because the last thing they need to do is go the route of Dark Knight Rises, X3, or Spider-man 3, where 1 is meh, 2 is amazing, and 3 is just everything thrown at the screen that the studio could muster.
All good. As much as I want to see an SE back story like from the comics, they're pretty much ignoring his soldiering and making him 100% ninja. So maybe delve into how SS is responsible for his scars and establish SS as a continual enemy of his.
A character with a Destro connection that I want to see is Wraith. At this point, they need a character who can kick SE's ass. Either Scott Adkins or actually go with a Frenchman in either Cyril Raphaelli (Elodie's D13 costar) or Vincent Cassel.
I wouldn't mind if they brought the Baroness back and just made her some rave bimbo that CC fell in love with and just nano'd her into his perfect mate. It's evil and if its always someone different in each movie, it could be comically evil.
As terrible as Retaliation was...they could still try to pull out a decent 3rd installment.
If they hadn't already ruined the "joes as criminals" premise, I'd have loved to have seen them adapt the Borovian gulag storyline.
I think Destro should be the villain in the third though. CC was underwhelming.
I think Tomax and Xamot are needed. Bludd was seen in the opening "After the nannite wars..." intro so he could be used. Bring back Baroness.
If they hadn't already ruined the "joes as criminals" premise, I'd have loved to have seen them adapt the Borovian gulag storyline.
I think Destro should be the villain in the third though. CC was underwhelming.
I think Tomax and Xamot are needed. Bludd was seen in the opening "After the nannite wars..." intro so he could be used. Bring back Baroness.
Realisticallly....
I'd like to see different teams nazy/army etc on different missions.
Use this as a real opertunity to SELL TOYS.
I think the Twins & Major Blood are likely contenders for the next one.
I'd like to see scrap iron but maybe we should save him if Destro comes back.
I'd like to see Cobra as a real threat & maybe beating the Joes. Then surprise Destro is behind the scenes making sure the Joes have what they need to defeat Cobra. REVENGE!!!!!!
Bigger teams Multiple teams grander vision!
I'd like to see different teams nazy/army etc on different missions.
Use this as a real opertunity to SELL TOYS.
I think the Twins & Major Blood are likely contenders for the next one.
I'd like to see scrap iron but maybe we should save him if Destro comes back.
I'd like to see Cobra as a real threat & maybe beating the Joes. Then surprise Destro is behind the scenes making sure the Joes have what they need to defeat Cobra. REVENGE!!!!!!
Bigger teams Multiple teams grander vision!
I want a free-for-all dogfight that puts the Battle of Shattered Skies to shame. Why is it that not one person in Hollywood has the balls to do it?
Hell, mix in the jetwing sequence from Black Ops II for maximum fun. Raid on Cobra fucking Island- there's your selling point.
Hell, mix in the jetwing sequence from Black Ops II for maximum fun. Raid on Cobra fucking Island- there's your selling point.
I love all the ideas you guys have mentioned...still loving the idea of mutable small 3-5 man teams of Joes around the globe doing their part to come to a mission conclusion near the end...
I still would also like to see Zartan return with Dreadnoks...but I want to see them as a bada$$ biker/merc gang...
I still would also like to see Zartan return with Dreadnoks...but I want to see them as a bada$$ biker/merc gang...
Kinda surprised we didn't see the multiple small teams thing in Retaliation, honestly. Would've made sense.
You get out of here with that BS!!
No need for more ninjas. A small group is just fine.
I like the sound of this the most. I'm happy that there is a third installment but don't want everything thrown at it as if it's a trilogy, save some ideas or a fourth or fifth film.
In film its usually a 3 movie run that they shoot for if you want to make a series.
Actors, producers & directors don't always want to sign on for more than 3 films especially if other opertunities come along.
Audiences historically usually start to lose interest after part 3,
I could see a part 4 or 5 if they introduce diffent teams & charactors with each movie. & maybe use the bond film method to continue the series but that is unlikely from a movie studio's point of view.
But it may be possible to ignore ROC & treat this as 1of 3 movies if the money is there.
Actors, producers & directors don't always want to sign on for more than 3 films especially if other opertunities come along.
Audiences historically usually start to lose interest after part 3,
I could see a part 4 or 5 if they introduce diffent teams & charactors with each movie. & maybe use the bond film method to continue the series but that is unlikely from a movie studio's point of view.
But it may be possible to ignore ROC & treat this as 1of 3 movies if the money is there.
Looks like Chu also wants to bring back Scarlett...hopefully he leaves Ripcord behind and the dead Joes STAY DEAD!!...f*@# Duke!!
Anyway...from comicbookmovies.com from CraveOnline
Anyway...from comicbookmovies.com from CraveOnline
With as many good characters in the Joe universe, they could easily make a few different movies with different casts and crews and just "Assemble" the best of the best for an epic showdown every once in awhile. Joe, unlike Avengers, doesn't need the same core characters and can rotate new blood in as it goes. Heck, in the comics, plenty of characters were written out when their enlistment was up.
The only one they would feel like had to be in every Joe movie is SE and he doesn't have to be Ray Park.
The only one they would feel like had to be in every Joe movie is SE and he doesn't have to be Ray Park.
I agree to an extent. It would need to be on Stars or something. Let the people who made Spartacus make it! Can you imagine the Baroness or Zarana they could write.
Hopefully all the best parts of the third movie won't be spoiled a year or two before its release. Retaliation was definitely a better movie than Rise of Cobra but it was very boring for me because all the best action scenes were released long before the movie. Although I did like most of Zartan's dialogue, as well as Cobra Commander's. I wish they hadn't killed off Fire Fly, he had a good actor too. The bad guys were the best part of the movie. Who could they have for a third movie that rivals how fun the bad guys were in the second movie? Especially since most of them died, or switched sides.
Coming Soon did an interview with Chu about Master's of the Universe and Joe 3...
Interesting - he said Joe has the momentum right now and Dwayne Johnson has a small window so they may start 3 sooner rather than later.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107084
Interesting - he said Joe has the momentum right now and Dwayne Johnson has a small window so they may start 3 sooner rather than later.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=107084
I'm down for them to pump out #3 sooner than later. Than we can have another Hasbro "Hiatus" in the toy line as well 
Seriously though, lets hurry and get the 3rd movie done and then reboot the movie franchise and start a new trilogy w/out the RoC BS
Seriously though, lets hurry and get the 3rd movie done and then reboot the movie franchise and start a new trilogy w/out the RoC BS
F*@# Joe movies...it NEEDS to be a weekly show...just too much potential to lock up in films that come out every few years...
I agree but like Med(i think) mentioned earlier, it would have to be on a premium channel so they could have a larger budget and be more mature.
Some interview with the writer...pretty much no-news...
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/movienewsandreviews/news/?a=91028
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/movienewsandreviews/news/?a=91028