Yeah, his frustration isn't something we all haven't felt at some point or another with this brand. At this point, I'm kinda past frustration and moved on to *shrugs*.
G.I. Joe 2016 Lineup
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You had the chance to correct him and tell him that you exclusively eat Snuffleupagus snacks. 
Am i the only one who only remembers one line of his? His super sad sounding "Hey, Bird."?
Am i the only one who only remembers one line of his? His super sad sounding "Hey, Bird."?
You had the chance to correct him and tell him that you exclusively eat Snuffleupagus snacks.
Am i the only one who only remembers one line of his? His super sad sounding "Hey, Bird."?
Snuffleupagus Was a figment of the giant yellow canary's drug induced fantasy
Also Cookie Monster was a coke head
Nothing that I'd pay more than retail for, but overall not a bad lineup. Vastly better than the Marvel offerings. More articulation too.
I mean... I guess they look a little better than the poorly painted/Photoshopped preview pics from JoeCon... But not much better.
Maybe it's just because of how long the drought has gone on, but the only things there that I wouldn't pick up if I actually saw them on the pegs would be the vehicles. I was surprised by how much I liked the SE SS pack. I am pretty done with those two, but it's cool to see what seem to be the most popular version together. I know at least one of my boys will be super excited about that. My fingers are crossed that they'll be in TRU and that I'll have some cash if they are.
Eh, I like the Shooter offering. That's a figure that's been a long time coming. Tombstone looks interesting... and I'm glad they're still attempting to do new characters now and then. The female cobra officer is a nice nod to a classic sunbow episode. And the comic colored SAW viper is cool because there was no way I was paying through the nose for the con figure a few years ago. I need a single saw viper to give Doc, Quick Kick, and Breaker nightmares 
Again, not the greatest batch, but a few highlights. It could be worse. We're going a whole year without a single CC or Destro... and that's an accomplishment.
Again, not the greatest batch, but a few highlights. It could be worse. We're going a whole year without a single CC or Destro... and that's an accomplishment.
He's getting his rainbow of outfits dry-cleaned. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get swamp water stink out of your clothes?!
Besides... he drew the line at purple. They wanted a purple repaint and he just refused. That's how we got another Outback instead.
Besides... he drew the line at purple. They wanted a purple repaint and he just refused. That's how we got another Outback instead.
The female trooper is cool in concept, but her detail lacking top half in conjunction with her detail heavy bottom is just awful.
You have spent more time scrutinizing her than I have. It's a female cobra officer. It's better than the one I currently have, which is none.
:lmao: Touche'!
See, Falcone. Why couldn't you have just said that instead of defending a lame sculpt?
Meh I'll eBay the 2-3 figures I want. You can be damn sure they won't be in the stores here when I go to look for them.
Well, I finished Master's school, I'm still waiting on the MTF Valkries, and I'm really burnt out on toys this fall. I really don't feel like going through the effort of hunting these things down, paying the money for them when they're going to go on clearance, and to top it off the nearest Toys R Us is 75 miles away, and the line up is just not inspiring confidence and I don't even know when they're suppose to hit shelves.
G.I. Joe has just not been worth it since 2011. I think I'm just going to save the time and money this year, and go back to doing what all other millennials in my position do, watch shitty fucking anime until I find a shitty job to compliment it . . .
G.I. Joe has just not been worth it since 2011. I think I'm just going to save the time and money this year, and go back to doing what all other millennials in my position do, watch shitty fucking anime until I find a shitty job to compliment it . . .
Not sure if I was going to get of these joes. My local TRU decided for me. Completely eliminated the adult collector section.
They moved mine, It was like they've been trying to hide the section even though every Dad I see walk into the place checks it out.
So... one sighting... does this mean we'll see the 2016 lineup in 2016? I'll be stunned if it's not delayed 60 days and renamed the 2017 lineup. "See you again in 27 months when a movie comes out and you've forgotten how much you hate t-crotches and gigantic neon missiles... Peace!"
I swear I think Hasbro hates Joe. That's not fanboy hyperbole... merely a reaction to the evidence I see before me. A handful of two-packs, and a $25/figure subscription club. And that's the best they can do. I know WM only likes toys that have media tie-ins, but there has to be more demand than a few measly impossible-to-find TRU 2-packs.
And if media is what it takes, why is there no media? TF reinvents itself with a new shit-tacular cartoon every 24 months followed by a slew of toys that never ends... Joe had Resolute which was cool but never had any followup. Renegades was well-received and promptly got cancelled because they had no obvious tie-in toys except one figure per wave mixed with lots of other figures. Why no modern military figures? Why no CoD-like Joe building sets instead of chibi kreos? Why no effort to manufacture the toy-media synergy like with other properties? It's not like Hasbro doesn't know how...
If TF can go strong, and SW can go strong, and fucking Turtles can just keep going like the Energizer Bunny, then why can't they come up with a coherent plan to keep Joe relevant and on the shelves? Are we so PC that a line of soldiers fighting a line of terrorists is media toxic? Is it because patriotism/nationalism doesn't sell outside of the domestic market?
I refuse to believe that there isn't a plausible way to get Joe on shelves en-mass sans major motion picture from Paramount. They just aren't trying hard enough.
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I swear I think Hasbro hates Joe. That's not fanboy hyperbole... merely a reaction to the evidence I see before me. A handful of two-packs, and a $25/figure subscription club. And that's the best they can do. I know WM only likes toys that have media tie-ins, but there has to be more demand than a few measly impossible-to-find TRU 2-packs.
And if media is what it takes, why is there no media? TF reinvents itself with a new shit-tacular cartoon every 24 months followed by a slew of toys that never ends... Joe had Resolute which was cool but never had any followup. Renegades was well-received and promptly got cancelled because they had no obvious tie-in toys except one figure per wave mixed with lots of other figures. Why no modern military figures? Why no CoD-like Joe building sets instead of chibi kreos? Why no effort to manufacture the toy-media synergy like with other properties? It's not like Hasbro doesn't know how...
If TF can go strong, and SW can go strong, and fucking Turtles can just keep going like the Energizer Bunny, then why can't they come up with a coherent plan to keep Joe relevant and on the shelves? Are we so PC that a line of soldiers fighting a line of terrorists is media toxic? Is it because patriotism/nationalism doesn't sell outside of the domestic market?
I refuse to believe that there isn't a plausible way to get Joe on shelves en-mass sans major motion picture from Paramount. They just aren't trying hard enough.
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I've often thought that too. The way they handle it, it's incredibly difficult to draw any other conclusion. Aside from the disdain that they must have for their own property theory, I can only assume it's money related. They must've done the research and just don't feel it's worth investing in. The return must not be large enough, for whatever reason. That's the only other explanation for the way they handle JOE.
I think it was more a victim/causality of the Hasbro Hub era, when it was going through an identity crisis.
"Don't call us a toy company, we're a serious I.P business now"
Combined with the Retaliation by Paramount delay and bad upper management decisions that things have to be attached to MEGA BLOCKBUSTER MOVIES!!!!
I agree the Hub era didn't do Renegades any favors, but again, TF Prime was in the same boat and got 3 seasons and a sequel series.
And I'm sure that Eddie's correct in that it's about money (because it's always about money), but I think they have drawn an incorrect conclusion along the way in their strategic planning. There is no way that Joe, given the right launch with cartoon tie-in, couldn't easily outsell half of what's in the two boy-isles at WM.
I'm quite convinced that they just aren't trying. When the best thing we've gotten in 3-4 years were some "oops" DG figures that accidentally slipped out as more than repacks, they can't possibly give a damn. You can't look at the rainbow Croc Masters and tell me that anyone at hasbro is trying (even the fucking croc is red! wtf!)
Turtles? WWE? Ghost Busters? Anything put out by Mattel? Joe should be able to destroy those properties.
How is it that we don't have 6" Joes by now? Realistic CoD-type lego Joes by now? Mindboggling. Hasbro is as inept at the top as Mattel is on the design level.
And I'm sure that Eddie's correct in that it's about money (because it's always about money), but I think they have drawn an incorrect conclusion along the way in their strategic planning. There is no way that Joe, given the right launch with cartoon tie-in, couldn't easily outsell half of what's in the two boy-isles at WM.
I'm quite convinced that they just aren't trying. When the best thing we've gotten in 3-4 years were some "oops" DG figures that accidentally slipped out as more than repacks, they can't possibly give a damn. You can't look at the rainbow Croc Masters and tell me that anyone at hasbro is trying (even the fucking croc is red! wtf!)
Turtles? WWE? Ghost Busters? Anything put out by Mattel? Joe should be able to destroy those properties.
How is it that we don't have 6" Joes by now? Realistic CoD-type lego Joes by now? Mindboggling. Hasbro is as inept at the top as Mattel is on the design level.
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With the popularity of Call of Duty, Battlefield, Gears of War and other similar military type games, it's a crime that Hasbro hasn't jumped in on that with their very own home grown military line. If cartoons aren't selling toys, a video game certainly would.
I think you're right, nacho. They just aren't trying hard enough. Money, spite, political reasons, who knows.
I think you're right, nacho. They just aren't trying hard enough. Money, spite, political reasons, who knows.
Megabloks cut Hasbro's dick off with the popularity of COD. If 1:18 military toys sold, then Bravo and Blue Box would still be in the game. You guys are looking at the toy aisle with 80's tinted glasses.
This is the most likely explanation. They hate anything that isn't made of pure money.
I hate this attitude all businesses have these days. Everything from movies to toys don't take risks. There's no art in it, it's just a shitty science of money.
Maybe 1:18 figures would sell better if they didn't break the moment you move their wrist to hold a weapon, or maybe they'd sell better if they didn't look like ass.
The biggest problem is that Hasbro has to answer to share holders. which means just making a profit is not good enough. There has to be growth to be considered successful to share holders. GI Joe could remain at status quo indefinitely and be profitable. But unless the GI Joe team can show projected growth, they won't get the capital to invest in expanding the brand.