What are the chances I can get an even, solid color on him?
At least his knee joints are already a dark color.
At least his knee joints are already a dark color.
Neon colored Doc
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Tried dying him last night, didn't do anything to him. It darkened his pelvis a tinsy bit, but that's it.
Guess I'll have to break him down and try the Krylon Fusion ultra flat black route.
Guess I'll have to break him down and try the Krylon Fusion ultra flat black route.
Ummm.......no.
I tried it once, but it didn't seem to do anything, so I haven't tried it since. Is there some specific ratio or type of acetone I should be using?
I tried it once, but it didn't seem to do anything, so I haven't tried it since. Is there some specific ratio or type of acetone I should be using?
yeah, i'm not to sure acetone and heat is such a smart idea.
ever read the back of a can of a oil base solvent product? i did for years, and you would think it's just a myth. well, i was doing this big house once, and we left stain rags hanging over the garbage can in the garage to dry over night, well where the garbage can was placed, there was a window adjacent to it, with no air flow and the evening sun baking on the stain drenched rags, combustion happened. the house almost burned down, but luckily the can was in the middle of the floor so nothing went up. by the time we got back to the job the next morning, there wasn't even a can there no more. so, it is true when they say keep away from heat and what not. acetone and stove is a recipe for disaster, so be smart and don't even try it, i don't give a shit what someone tells you.
ever read the back of a can of a oil base solvent product? i did for years, and you would think it's just a myth. well, i was doing this big house once, and we left stain rags hanging over the garbage can in the garage to dry over night, well where the garbage can was placed, there was a window adjacent to it, with no air flow and the evening sun baking on the stain drenched rags, combustion happened. the house almost burned down, but luckily the can was in the middle of the floor so nothing went up. by the time we got back to the job the next morning, there wasn't even a can there no more. so, it is true when they say keep away from heat and what not. acetone and stove is a recipe for disaster, so be smart and don't even try it, i don't give a shit what someone tells you.
there you go.
i recomend, great white covering some zepplin, jack russel is the closest thing you will ever find to sounding like plant.
yeah, take that david coverdale, you suck, and so does white snake.
i recomend, great white covering some zepplin, jack russel is the closest thing you will ever find to sounding like plant.
yeah, take that david coverdale, you suck, and so does white snake.
Fogger and I have done the heat/acetone thing a number of times now. His house is still there, last time I checked.
We're using a crockpot to apply heat, it's very, very low heat.
We're using a crockpot to apply heat, it's very, very low heat.
Once you get past that terrible hit of theirs (Once Bitten) they've got some really great stuff.
Anyhoo, never listen to Fogger and Midget, they live on borrowed time and will indeed one day burn down the Turkish bath house they "customize" in.
So this process can't be done in a pan on an oven? The one time I tried it, I simply added some acetone to the water along with the dye.
The problem I've had with dying (no acetone involved) is that even if it's a success, the dye leaches through whatever paint I lay down on the figure/dye.
What is the correct process?
The problem I've had with dying (no acetone involved) is that even if it's a success, the dye leaches through whatever paint I lay down on the figure/dye.
What is the correct process?
Right now, I'm more likely to catch a ricochet from trying to hit a dime at 100 yards with iron sights
Fogger can give you the exact method. He's got the ratio of water:acetone:dye worked out pretty well.
We do it using his basement with windows and doors open. And a crockpot set to low heat. Just stick the parts in and check them at 5 or so minute intervals. Clean up is immediate and there aren't any acetone soaked rags lying around.
ok, tell you what, if you're gonna play with acetone and heat, at least get a extention cord and a crock pot and do it in the back yard away from the house. i don't think creating a new gi joe is worth what can happen.
I wouldn't use acetone around anything with an open flame, for starters (so not on a pot on the stove), but it does work (and very well) for dyeing figures that won't take dye otherwise. We use a crock pot rather than a pot on the stove. I know of several customizers who use the method; Slayer Dave actually recommends wiping his parts down with acetone before painting, as it'll help the parts take the paint better.
What I do is add a small amount of acetone to an already warm solution of water & dye. (It tends to evaporate if you don't have the water warm first). A lot of Hasbro's recent offerings (25th and more recent) don't take dye very well unless you're really, really heating the figure up, which can cause warping. The acetone essentially works to open the pores of the figure and help it accept the dye better. It accelerates the process overall, as well, so you usually don't have to leave figures in the dye for nearly as long - sometimes less than a minute.
There are side effects, of course - your figures will get a bit floppy, but as soon as you dunk them in ice water afterwards that goes away. I've never had one get damaged using the acetone/water mix and I've dyed probably 30 or so figures by now using this (more if we count Midget's).
If you're not comfortable with it, don't use it - but it does work.
What I do is add a small amount of acetone to an already warm solution of water & dye. (It tends to evaporate if you don't have the water warm first). A lot of Hasbro's recent offerings (25th and more recent) don't take dye very well unless you're really, really heating the figure up, which can cause warping. The acetone essentially works to open the pores of the figure and help it accept the dye better. It accelerates the process overall, as well, so you usually don't have to leave figures in the dye for nearly as long - sometimes less than a minute.
There are side effects, of course - your figures will get a bit floppy, but as soon as you dunk them in ice water afterwards that goes away. I've never had one get damaged using the acetone/water mix and I've dyed probably 30 or so figures by now using this (more if we count Midget's).
If you're not comfortable with it, don't use it - but it does work.
I also reload my own ammo, so take that for what it's worth.
Dying figures is by far one of the least dangerous things I've done with chemicals in recent memory. It's about the same risk as running an airbrush with lacquer paints.
I'm sure Fogger will be along to blind us all with science.
and the vapors are poisonous, so outside away from anything that can inflame would be the smartest way of doing something so silly.
i'm not knocking midgit or fogger for what they do, i'm just saying, it ain't the brightest thing to do, and i'm not trying to jinx them either. so if something is ever to happen, don't go saying i jinxed anyone, i'm just talking reason here.
i'm not knocking midgit or fogger for what they do, i'm just saying, it ain't the brightest thing to do, and i'm not trying to jinx them either. so if something is ever to happen, don't go saying i jinxed anyone, i'm just talking reason here.
Big, BIG, BIG difference between mixing acetone with water over low heat and leaving soaked rags out in the direct sun.
The total amount of acetone I use in a 5-quart crockpot is less than a cup. The ratio is about 1:100 acetone to water.
The total amount of acetone I use in a 5-quart crockpot is less than a cup. The ratio is about 1:100 acetone to water.
Other than than poison fumes, how can diluting acetone in water be dangerous?
(not being flip, I would like to know)
But I don't have a crock pot that I can devote to such an endeavor so it's probably a moot point.
(not being flip, I would like to know)
But I don't have a crock pot that I can devote to such an endeavor so it's probably a moot point.
it's the vapors.. vapors + heat = combustion.
i'm just saying, do what you do, but i don't think it is smart.
I am referring to the great pyrotechnics they used at their least concert
i think he was aware of that, lol.
and i'm just saying it ain't smart..roposetoast:
Sure you are. But whatever.
I've done all the research and I know what I'm getting into, and I take precautions.
I would strongly recommend that if you're going to do this you do the same. If you're not comfortable with it, don't do it.
Yeah, you've made that clear. And, for what it's worth, I think you're wrong.
i'm proud of ya.
and i'm just saying it ain't smart..
I'm proud of you....? The hell?
I am referring to the great pyrotechnics they used at their least concert
Not last but certainly the most memorable.
Other than than poison fumes, how can diluting acetone in water be dangerous?
(not being flip, I would like to know)
But I don't have a crock pot that I can devote to such an endeavor so it's probably a moot point.
can you delute oil with water? or does it not seperate?
it is still dangerous.
i just don't want to see you go trying this, and next thing you know everything went wrong.
i liked once bitten.. they were one of the best bands from that class of rock, that tesla and skid row.
about reloading your ammo, haha.. whatever that even means, i'm not gun savy, so i was too like what the hell? haha..
i most certainly am not knocking you. i'm just saying, i personally think it's stupid and for someone like bob here shouldnt even try it without any knowledge of products.
the poor guy asked, so you cant do this over a stove or oven?? like really?, my point being made with that statement.
i didn't once say midgit and fogger are idiots, or making fun of you.
i'm just saying, i don't think it's a great idea.
Oh, gotcha
It's taking the already fired brass, cleaning it, re-primering it, adding gun powder and then a bullet.
I was just saying there were more dangerous things I do on a regular basis than work with the acetone. The primers and gunpowder are safe enough, but I'd say there's more risk working and storing that stuff than a bottle of acetone.
Oh, gotcha
It's taking the already fired brass, cleaning it, re-primering it, adding gun powder and then a bullet.
I was just saying there were more dangerous things I do on a regular basis than work with the acetone. The primers and gunpowder are safe enough, but I'd say there's more risk working and storing that stuff than a bottle of acetone.
depends, because with both, there's always that chance of a back fire. solvents are as easily as dangerous as gun powder. a buddy of mine's father had a bag of old fireworks, he picked the bag up and lost some fingers.
anything can go wrong with shit that is explosive.
Acetone is miscible with water, oil is not. Completely different substances with completely different reactions. Not at all the same.
And yes, it's dangerous, but I don't appreciate the fact that you don't have a clue what you're talking about and yet you're lecturing me about safe handling.
Acetone fumes are explosive in certain concentrations - as noted previously, we're using it in a well-ventilated area, so that's not a concern. The auto-ignition temperature for acetone is 869 °F - if we reach that, I've got bigger things to worry about than the acetone.
Absolutely you are. That's perfectly clear to both Midget and myself.
Your objection is noted. Since you haven't actually done any research into the topic, though, I'm going to ignore it, since I have.
so, acetone and oil are not of the same? where does acetone come from originally?
because i know with the rise of oil prices, so is paint thinner, gas, acetone and any other petrolleum based solvent.
i know enough about solvents and any oil base product, that it is indeed explosive and flamable.
just cause it hasn't happened, don't mean it can't. same as stained rags, i been in the trade for 13 years, my brothers over 20 something, and we all read the labels, but never believed it because it never happened, then it did.
just being the voice of reason here, buddy. don't get so hurt over it, it clearly shows, you are touched by my statements.