1/18 Comanche? Opinions welcomed

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you know, with your skills, you could make a V-22...you'd be VERYU popular :D

Haha. I can make anything i can imagine, lol. It would probably be better to come up with a slightly different, but similar design. I have always liked the Skybolt Tiltrotor Transport. Or the V-24. See below.

so your going to have the floor drop out like on the Night Raven?



Well, when i said i'd have it drop out, keep in mind this Comanche will just be a set of hulls if anyone wants to buy them and build them. I was going to have the floor drop just to get the pilots in and out(And to be able to paint the cockpit with the hulls together and the glass in place). There's no way to get figures in the same way the pilots did. It was a tight squeeze for humans, it would be next to impossible to get figures in and out of those tiny windows.




Skybolt:



V-24:

 

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never seen the V-24...its absolutely beautiful...something i could totally see in G.I.JOE use...would also compliment the Comanche yer making very well
 

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never seen the V-24...its absolutely beautiful...something i could totally see in G.I.JOE use...would also compliment the Comanche yer making very well

Thanks. I was talking recently to a wood supplier locally that reckoned he had stocks of a wood that had a similar set of properties as jelutong, so if i can get some of that from him, i will be able to get a fast master made of the V-24. Or something very similar in any case.
But the Comanche will be first.
I have no pics of it, but i got the shape cut out tonight at work using my scroll saw. It's just a matter of making the hull sides now.
 

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Bar this is amazing! Can't wait to see the comanche. Get your order taking book out.
 

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Bar this is amazing! Can't wait to see the comanche. Get your order taking book out.

Thanks a lot.
I will only be "taking orders" when i have the vacforms in my hand and have built one myself for everyone to see what's involved in the process.
I don't want anyone thinking this thing will be some kind of JSI style prebuilt replica...
:D


i was talking about the Comanche im into realistic aircraft and not these "Joes aircraft"

Ahhh. I see. My mistake. I get your meaning now.
This one will be 1/18. Maybe even 1mm or 2 larger in some dimensions due to the thickness off the vacformed material.
 

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I find this whole thread interesting.

I am currantly working on a large project with wings.

I sure wish that I could vacuum form the wings but I would have to scribe panel lines on it.

40 times. For a one of would not be too bad.

Can't wait to see how the body turns out.

I have made the wings out of resin. They are hallow and are about 2 feet long with a brass rod cast into them for strength.





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Thanks a lot.
I will only be "taking orders" when i have the vacforms in my hand and have built one myself for everyone to see what's involved in the process.
I don't want anyone thinking this thing will be some kind of JSI style prebuilt replica...
:D




Ahhh. I see. My mistake. I get your meaning now.
This one will be 1/18. Maybe even 1mm or 2 larger in some dimensions due to the thickness off the vacformed material.

I hear you. But hey, if you can make I think all of us here would rather put $$$ in a fellow members pocket for great quality rather than some of the big guys.
 

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I find this whole thread interesting.

I find that to be quite the compliment. Thanks.

I am currently working on a large project with wings.

I sure wish that I could vacuum form the wings but I would have to scribe panel lines on it.

40 times. For a one of would not be too bad.

That will be the Horten, right? The good think about vacforming in styrene is that it's cheap, easy to work with and easy to scribe. Of course, if you are selling buildups of the horten, i can imagine the pain it would be to scribe all the panels. But if you made vacform patterns of the wings, i am guessing about four hours on the pattern initially would see them sanded and primed and ready to go, and each set of wings would be about $20(Based on the size, and the place i get to do mine). If Your resin technique of adding the rods will stop them from drooping, plus you have the panel lines on already, then there's no real saving to be made, especially as you'd have to add the panel lines to each vacform separately. So that's a bonus of the technique you are using. But if you had made the Horten in two pieces. Hull top, and hull bottom, and vacformed the entire thing, it would be very light, and totally hollow. I reckon you would have had less fit issues with the cockpit seat frame. But on the flipside, you would have had to always scribe the panel lines...(And cut out the gear bay doors). That can be tiresome, no doubt about that. But not every technique works for every project. I just feel that there is not a market for a $300 Comanche. But a $60 one... Might just have people willing to scribe their own panel lines and build it themselves...(especially as the hull will weigh less than an unopened can of coke before you start).
It's all horses for courses.


Can't wait to see how the body turns out.

Thanks. Pics below of the cut out risers.

I have made the wings out of resin. They are hollow and are about 2 feet long with a brass rod cast into them for strength.


Very nice. Rotocasting is definitely the way to go. We did that with my F-302 kit back in the day when it was in production.





I hear you. But hey, if you can make I think all of us here would rather put $$$ in a fellow members pocket for great quality rather than some of the big guys.

Thanks a lot. I am hoping that what i make here will make people want one.
But if not, i will have one for me, and a set of patterns to make as many more as i could ever need.
Here are pics of the risers cut out together, with a Joe and a can of Diet Coke for scale:








 

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day-um. this is looking great. some of the other stuff you have done is awesome. I took look forward to seeing finished product.


Thanks a lot. With a bit of luck(And the fact i have a week or so off work in the holiday season), i should have the vast majority of the hull done and ready to go before the 10th of january.
As i said previously, the fact that the Comanche has such a simple hull shape will make a lot easier to get it done.


I'm looking forward to when mine is sitting in my mailbox :D

Lol. Me too! I am hoping to have hulls ready to go by the end of january at the latest. I want to build one of these myself...
 

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love the size!...it's a monster!

It's all relative. In attack helicopter terms(And if you compare it to its "Bigger Brother", the Apache), it's quite a svelte machine. It only SEEMS large because it will be a large addition to your collection if you have it sitting on a shelf next to the TH Apache(Or a GI Joe Tomahawk, lol).
I for one will be glad to have a decent sized replica of this craft once and for all.
I haven't even begun to lay the hull and already i am thinking of what would be a decent next project in vacform in 1/18. Part of me knows this will be an easy and fast project, and i like to think five moves ahead...
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Hell, I'm already looking forward to your next project considering the expedited progress of the work on this one!


Thanks a lot. Part of me wants to make a true 1/18 scale F-22, but i think a better and more sought after project may just be a properly proportioned 1/18F-15.
Although of course i could be wrong.
 

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It's all relative. In attack helicopter terms(And if you compare it to its "Bigger Brother", the Apache), it's quite a svelte machine. It only SEEMS large because it will be a large addition to your collection if you have it sitting on a shelf next to the TH Apache(Or a GI Joe Tomahawk, lol).
I for one will be glad to have a decent sized replica of this craft once and for all.
I haven't even begun to lay the hull and already i am thinking of what would be a decent next project in vacform in 1/18. Part of me knows this will be an easy and fast project, and i like to think five moves ahead...
:D

no no don't think 5 moves ahead, just 5 comanches ahead, then an A-10.

lol, that bird just happens to be a fav around here
 

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Hind is probably too big, huh?

It'd be similar in size to the blackhawk. I'd only buy it if it was a prebuilt though, with vacum forming you'd need to scribe all the panels and whatnot. You'd spend more time doing that than the rest of the building and painting X10
 

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Small piece of progress today as its been mad busy at work.
I cut out two pieces of 020 thou styrene and sandwiched them between the risers(the styrene will be the mating surface between the two halves). I am going to drill another ten or so holes for screws across the shape just to make sure the styrene will be securely held to the risers. It will just be as a safety measure to ensure it sits flat during the construction phase.
Anyway, here are the pics.

















And the good news is that the Comanche would fit through the stargate....(so maybe it wasn't cancelled, they were just requisitioned by the IOA for defence of off world bases, lol).



And finally with the little craft that made me consider this project. How absolutely pants it looks in comparison with even just the risers...

 
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This is so cool to watch the WIP...thanks for sharing. I cannot wait to see one done. I personally have no room for such a huge chopper...but certain it will be an amazing piece. :D
 

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It's all relative. In attack helicopter terms(And if you compare it to its "Bigger Brother", the Apache), it's quite a svelte machine. It only SEEMS large because it will be a large addition to your collection if you have it sitting on a shelf next to the TH Apache(Or a GI Joe Tomahawk, lol).
I for one will be glad to have a decent sized replica of this craft once and for all.

Most folks here would have it parked to a Bbi Apache, Blackhawk, Little Bird or Kiowa Warrior, not schmuck True Heroes vehicles. Venerable as it is the Tomahawk is outclassed, too.

Hind is probably too big, huh?



The UH-60 is longer by a couple of feet, but the Hind is bigger practically everywhere else.
 

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It is indeed.
I am just taking a break from spaceships for a while.

Welcome to the board! I don't spend much time at SSM anymore either, but I still have a huge stash of sci models to build.
 

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This is so cool to watch the WIP...thanks for sharing. I cannot wait to see one done. I personally have no room for such a huge chopper...but certain it will be an amazing piece. :D

Thanks for posting. I appreciate all comments. This chopper is being built BY me, FOR me, and if there is even one person out there who'd also like one, then it is a cool by product of the build, but not essential. I welcome all comments, no matter if you fancy having a go and building one or not.

Most folks here would have it parked to a Bbi Apache, Blackhawk, Little Bird or Kiowa Warrior, not schmuck True Heroes vehicles. Venerable as it is the Tomahawk is outclassed, too.

My mistake. I'm used to the Tank, where everything is judged by the largest of Joe craft.

The UH-60 is longer by a couple of feet, but the Hind is bigger practically everywhere else.

Indeed. Hind is a cool design too.


Welcome to the board! I don't spend much time at SSM anymore either, but I still have a huge stash of sci models to build.


Lol. I hear you. I will have to live till i am 150 years old if i am to build my entire stash...
 

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My mistake. I'm used to the Tank, where everything is judged by the largest of Joe craft.

lol...nice dig...

looks like you did at one point work on a F-117?

and i'm gonna catch flak for noticing this, even though everyone else did too, but uhhh, whats with the 'balls" on the wall? :D
















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Hey bar, any new progress???

Hey there.
I have been very busy with my day job over the last few days. I'll definitely be back to work on monday, and will be back on track then for sure.
Sorry about the delay in this project. I really shgould have been finished by now. I have just been sidetracked with work.
More soon.
And happy new year to everyone watching the thread!
 

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Oh, and just a question to anyone watching who has an answer:

What would be the best figure to use as a pilot for this thing when i am done?
I know the Ace figure with the new Skystriker is more of a jet pilot, but would that figure do as a pilot for this one?
I love the F-35 style Indirect Vision setup on his helmet. And i can't help but think that if the Comanche had seen service, the Pilots would have had a similar setup...
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