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Ok, I'll give you Powers, Y, Alias, and the Ultimate titles, but those were at least after we hit the 2000's... the 1990's were awash in Wolverine clones (Deadpool, Bloodsport, Ripclaw, etc), actual Spider-Man clones, and people who thought they could adequately imitate the Image guys.
AoA is the reason I stopped reading comics for a long time. (insert Sideshow Bob shudder here)
As with any generalizations, there are certainly exceptions, but I still feel that the 90's in general were a low-tide, arguably the lowest, in terms of creative quality in comics history.
AoA is the reason I stopped reading comics for a long time. (insert Sideshow Bob shudder here)
As with any generalizations, there are certainly exceptions, but I still feel that the 90's in general were a low-tide, arguably the lowest, in terms of creative quality in comics history.
I won't argue with this, only with the idea that there was nothing of value during that time.
Well, to be fair, I didn't ever say that specifically... merely that there was virtually nothing in that era that I personally enjoyed. But I can understand that you might see an implication.
I know, I just thought I'd offer up some of the quality stuff from that period in case you liked any of it and forgot when it came out.
Yeah, there were a few things in the early 2000's, but in general the 90's made me lose interest in comics for a while. Eventually I came back with a vengeance, but the 90's were an era when I thought the creativity was low, I had women and college kicking my ass, and I just didn't have much patience or money to wade through the sea of "extreme" crap to find the handful of books that didn't suck.
Hey, I was in my prime comic collecting in the 90s! It was what it was, and that was Wolverine's heyday before he turned to crap. In fact, my favorite comic series was the Wolverine run that Hama (I know, hisssss) did with Adam Kubert.
I may have shitty taste in comics, but that was my always favorite (I had the whole series, including the mini-series before it. I liked Wolverine most when the Adamantium was out of him and he was sheer brawler badass, but breakable. Then after issue 1XX or so, he became the ridiculous Super-Immortal-On-Everyone's-Team that he is today. Up until I quit collecting that run (I stopped around 150, well before they rebooted it with #1) I had the entirety of Wolverine Vol 2. and loved it. My interest dropped in Marvel shortly after the Onslaught saga, and maybe a year or 2 after that I stopped collecting comics completely.
Anyways, how'd this get off-topic from the Club?
I may have shitty taste in comics, but that was my always favorite (I had the whole series, including the mini-series before it. I liked Wolverine most when the Adamantium was out of him and he was sheer brawler badass, but breakable. Then after issue 1XX or so, he became the ridiculous Super-Immortal-On-Everyone's-Team that he is today. Up until I quit collecting that run (I stopped around 150, well before they rebooted it with #1) I had the entirety of Wolverine Vol 2. and loved it. My interest dropped in Marvel shortly after the Onslaught saga, and maybe a year or 2 after that I stopped collecting comics completely.
Anyways, how'd this get off-topic from the Club?
That's funny. I loved the Hama/Silvestri run on Wolverine, but I jumped off when they brought in Kubert and gave him bone claws. I hated that! I always thought Wolvie's best era was between Mutant Massacre and the outback era in the mid-80's of Uncanny. He wasn't invincible then either, and Claremont knew how to write him as a badass without going over the top.
Well, at the time, I hated it. As a kid, I wanted him to get his indestructible metal back so he was invincible again. But it wasn't until they gave him his adamantium back in a kind of lame way (the Death story arc with Apocalypse and Sabretooth?) that I realized that he was way more awesome when his healing factor was in full-force and not having to constantly be trying to fight off the Adamantium as an "outside body". Don't get me wrong, I loved every single issue from the mini-series on up until Kubert too, but for some reason, he was always my favorite artist.
I know it's a tad cliché, but the issue where Logan pops the claw in Creed's brain will always stand out to me as an awesome issue. The part I liked the best about it was just seeing him sort of casual, and behind the scenes, not the actual Sabretooth-brain-claw part.
And I really dug the AOA storyline, too Fogger.
At the time I didn't, but it later grew on me. I also liked the Onslaught saga, looking back on it. That was when crossovers were still manageable. I feel like since then, they have just painted themselves into a corner too many times and have to resort to full-on series reboots, or heavy retcons to "fix" things that they went too overboard with.
I know it's a tad cliché, but the issue where Logan pops the claw in Creed's brain will always stand out to me as an awesome issue. The part I liked the best about it was just seeing him sort of casual, and behind the scenes, not the actual Sabretooth-brain-claw part.
And I really dug the AOA storyline, too Fogger.
At the time I didn't, but it later grew on me. I also liked the Onslaught saga, looking back on it. That was when crossovers were still manageable. I feel like since then, they have just painted themselves into a corner too many times and have to resort to full-on series reboots, or heavy retcons to "fix" things that they went too overboard with.
It probably depends on when we started reading comics, but I can't stand that era of Wolverine. He was best when he was part of the X-Men, not the center of it. And he was interesting when his past was unknown, not filled out with 100's of Origins and retcons. And most importantly, he was sympathetic when it took days to heal from his wounds, not seconds. The modern Indestructible Wolverine is one of the worst evolutions of a character I can think of. He used to be badass, now he's lame.
I was a dyed-in-the-wool, early Strike Team-era X-Men kid. My interest waned after Fatal Attractions, and I stopped about a year after the arc ended, so the Psylocke/Revanche story was the last I recall.
Hell, they could have KILLED him in FA and it would have been better than devolved noseless Wolverine (ooh, with Elektra!), Four Horseman (Wooooooooo!) Wolvie, "I'm the son of a unfaithful Canadian whore housewife" or i'm invincible AND on every team, bitch! Wolverine.
Oh, did I mention his swings-both-ways douchebag of a son?
I guess it doesn't matter. One day this too shall pass, and some writer will make Wolverine cool again.
Hell, they could have KILLED him in FA and it would have been better than devolved noseless Wolverine (ooh, with Elektra!), Four Horseman (Wooooooooo!) Wolvie, "I'm the son of a unfaithful Canadian whore housewife" or i'm invincible AND on every team, bitch! Wolverine.
Oh, did I mention his swings-both-ways douchebag of a son?
I guess it doesn't matter. One day this too shall pass, and some writer will make Wolverine cool again.
The only "origin" I still observe is the Weapon X one, where he had false memories and all that. Shiva, etc. with Kestrel and the whole lot. I've relied on Wikipedia to update me on the recent shenanigans, and the whole Dark Wolverine (I forget his name at the moment, Daken?) and the Super-Wolverine-looking dude who turns out ran the Weapon X program (Rolulus?), X-23 and all the other Wolverine relatives/doppelgangers just watered him down even more.
Besides the name "James Howlett" being True Blood pun-level cringe-worthy, I agree, it killed all the mystery of him.
But I was in my early to mid teens in the 90s, which is when I got into comics. So that was the Wolverine of the era for me. I personally always liked him as a loner, since he never really seemed to play well with others except for Jean Grey and a few select chicks, so being a part of a team always felt forced. At best, I always imagined him swinging by, helping out, then bouncing off on his own again. Never really settling down anywhere for too long.
Besides the name "James Howlett" being True Blood pun-level cringe-worthy, I agree, it killed all the mystery of him.
But I was in my early to mid teens in the 90s, which is when I got into comics. So that was the Wolverine of the era for me. I personally always liked him as a loner, since he never really seemed to play well with others except for Jean Grey and a few select chicks, so being a part of a team always felt forced. At best, I always imagined him swinging by, helping out, then bouncing off on his own again. Never really settling down anywhere for too long.
Well the Fucktards at the club haven't improved their security. I just received my confirmation email about my order. 1 small problem: My confirmation is somebody else's confirmation with their credit card, email, address and everything. Fucking retards. That means that some other assclown has my shit now. Tried calling them but they are closed. *sigh*
Ugh. Did it show the entire CC number on there? Please tell me no. And I'd email/contact the dude whose info you got mistakenly to let him know.
HA! hahahahahahahahahahaha!
I'm not laughing at your situation, merely the fact that it just never stops where the club is concerned. They couldn't find their own ass with both hands.
I'm not laughing at your situation, merely the fact that it just never stops where the club is concerned. They couldn't find their own ass with both hands.
It only showed the type of card and the last 4. All his other info his here though like full middle and last name. Full address and what he ordered. He chose to do the installment payments.
I emailed the club and I will call them tomorrow when they are open.
Yea Bro. I'm seriously getting tired of dealing with these guys. Iceberg better not be good.
And they still won't care. As long as the money keeps coming in they won't ever fix things. I'm just amazed they can't seem to do things right even after completely screwing up. Maybe someone needs to rub their nose in piss so they learn.
They do stand upright and can communicate through syllables, correct? I'm starting to question it a little more.
Never mind. I found a picture of their web team in action.
They do stand upright and can communicate through syllables, correct? I'm starting to question it a little more.
Never mind. I found a picture of their web team in action.
Back on topic. I think there were a lot of great design and characters to come out of the new sculpt era. It's just too bad the figures had terrible proportions and slightly different construction than ARAH. If the New Sculpts used the same proportions and construction of ARAH I think it would have been more popular, at least I would have bought them. I just think what could have been if those hundreds of figures could be used as custom fodder for my ARAH customs.
That's one reason I never liked them, and I'm glad that other people realize that their proportions were fucking awful. How they went from ARAH to that, I'll never know. They actually got worse, even if the sculpting was crisper due to improvements in technology.
I wasn't into Joes during that time. I got out around 92ish and didn't get back until 2007. From what I've seen... not a fan of the proportions.
Even some of the better proportioned figures just felt too different for me to use with ARAH. The arms had plastic rivets instead of metal and the shoulders are round. If the arms at least looked ARAH the figures would have been more acceptable to me. The different arm style just stands out too much.
I am HIGHLY dubious of the thinking that NS era figures were sculpturaly more crisp than late line ARAH.
I can't think of anything superlative to say about them over ARAH. They should have been loads better considering the improvements in tech that had ocurred in the decade Joes were out of stores*.
* no, I do not count the '97-'98 and '00-'01 special editions.
People on Hisstank are reporting that the club messed up again & is sending out the wrong client info to people. Some got confirmation emails with other people's personal info. (Including some Credit Card info) Other people got notified by people who recieved their info.
Not a member of the club because of this drama, but wanted any club memebers to know about it just in case.
Not a member of the club because of this drama, but wanted any club memebers to know about it just in case.
LOL.
Yea VV I posted it here right away. After I saw a few people had the same problem on the Tank, I posted mine there too. Typical Club bullshit.
Yea VV I posted it here right away. After I saw a few people had the same problem on the Tank, I posted mine there too. Typical Club bullshit.
