Marvel: Phase Two

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Of course Red Skull will return. I doubt he does for any action in this movie, but I bet he gets name dropped at the end in some manner. They have to set up Zemo and Red Skull's return for the next movie. :)D I'm hoping). I wouldn't doubt if the final end of credit scene is where we get the Skull's return.
 

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If he does, it won't be Weaving. He has stated that he does not want to return to the role. I'd be fine if it ended up being Pierce, but it doesn't have to be a movie reveal...a credit thing, sure.

As for the toy. The figure is obviously in the First Avenger gear. It's not like we haven't gotten characters in the previous lines that were never in the movies (Winter Soldier in the first toy line).
 

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^^^ that's why I think this writer is a moron.

IM2 toys had Iron Monger, Mandarin, and Crimson Dynamo. First Avenger had Winter Soldier, Cross Bones, and the Bucky Cap. Avengers had the Skrull.
 

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I hope RS appears or gets teased at the end. He's behind the Winter Soldier in the original comic story right?
 

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I hope RS appears or gets teased at the end. He's behind the Winter Soldier in the original comic story right?

To be completely honest, I hope they don't follow the comics too closely. I prefer "fresh" ideas. Also, I'd like for them to expand on Cap's universe without it having to tie-in to Red Skull.
 

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To be completely honest, I hope they don't follow the comics too closely. I prefer "fresh" ideas. Also, I'd like for them to expand on Cap's universe without it having to tie-in to Red Skull.

I understand that however I think it's too late. They are already setting up a modern Hydra, I would assume RS will be popping back up.
 

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I say bring him back in Cap3 with no cameo in 2. Maybe by then Weaving will change his mind.
 

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I say bring him back in Cap3 with no cameo in 2. Maybe by then Weaving will change his mind.

That would be cool if he did change his mind. They could always just use CGI the whole time but Marvel has never been shy of recasting actors :(.

He might pop up in the after credits of Avengers 2 if he doesn't show up in Cap 2. Cap 3 has already been green lit and will probably be one of the movies for 2016 or 2017.
 

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This is why people are claiming Pierce is actually RS in disguise. It would make sense on the side of Weaving not coming back, and give the ability of him being aged some, although a bit slower.

There was a throw away line in Avengers from Loki when he first meets Captain America. 'Ah, the soldier.' My theory is, Loki and RS were both in the same location and have planned things out, with RS coming back in the Pierce disguise.
 

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This is why people are claiming Pierce is actually RS in disguise. It would make sense on the side of Weaving not coming back, and give the ability of him being aged some, although a bit slower.

There was a throw away line in Avengers from Loki when he first meets Captain America. 'Ah, the soldier.' My theory is, Loki and RS were both in the same location and have planned things out, with RS coming back in the Pierce disguise.

That's a great theory!

If that is true, I would add Pierce as the "Clairvoyant" too :thumbsup:
 

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I see the Clairvoyant being Scarlet Witch actually. But, that will probably be wrong as well.
 

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Anyone else find that this whole GotG deal is one hell of a risk? It looks that Marvel is giving the finger to DC and their belief that only A listers sell movies.

Marvel can do whatever they want, people have faith in their films as they are almost always good (lately)...DC?...not so much...

They were generally blue in the comics.

Bummer...wonder why the pointless color change...

This is why people are claiming Pierce is actually RS in disguise. It would make sense on the side of Weaving not coming back, and give the ability of him being aged some, although a bit slower.

There was a throw away line in Avengers from Loki when he first meets Captain America. 'Ah, the soldier.' My theory is, Loki and RS were both in the same location and have planned things out, with RS coming back in the Pierce disguise.

Yeah...since the human face is just a mask, RS can literally be anyone...ANY actor can take the role...the changed voice sucks though...
 

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It doesn't really...just like the Scarlett Witch...but I know she was in red just like I was pretty certain GotG were in blue...at the very least, I like consistent colors, especially when there doesn't seem to be any reason to change such a thing...*shrugs*

It definitely won't ruin the movie for me, but I always find it funny when they change stuff like that...
 

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For the most part, they have worn blue. Drax is the only one in the movie that looks 100% spot on (besides Groot). But, the color of their outfits isn't something that really makes or breaks the movie, like making Iron Man blue would have (not a make or break thing, but the fan boys would have bitched for years...shit..look at the ire the triangle arc got).

The recent comic of GotG was a bit more ambiguous in the outfits.
 

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For the most part, they have worn blue. Drax is the only one in the movie that looks 100% spot on (besides Groot). But, the color of their outfits isn't something that really makes or breaks the movie, like making Iron Man blue would have (not a make or break thing, but the fan boys would have bitched for years...shit..look at the ire the triangle arc got).

The recent comic of GotG was a bit more ambiguous in the outfits.

Our movie heroes can change their cloths???? (Looks at Han Solo..)
 

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You'd be surprised. Fan boys piss me off so much when it comes to shit like that.

"Actually. Tony parts his hair to the left, not the right like it was in IM2. Noobz."
 

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Meh, I can't see myself as getting very excited about this one... Too far separated from the main storyline and full of characters I neither know or really have much of an interest in knowing. I don't get where they fit in and the trailer definitely didn't sell me on it.
 

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Meh, I can't see myself as getting very excited about this one... Too far separated from the main storyline and full of characters I neither know or really have much of an interest in knowing. I don't get where they fit in and the trailer definitely didn't sell me on it.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and absolutely.

Pass.

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You guys are the reason why DC feels the need to shove Batman and Superman into EVERYTHING! Thankfully Marvel doesn't act that way.
 

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If they keep this as its own thing, then fine, but I feel like Marvel is doing the exact opposite and cramming in too many disparate things.. that isn't necessary.

But I don't follow Marvel or DC so I really don't give a damn lol
 

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If they keep this as its own thing, then fine, but I feel like Marvel is doing the exact opposite and cramming in too many disparate things.. that isn't necessary.

But I don't follow Marvel or DC so I really don't give a damn lol

It's both.

It's their own movie but it takes place in the movie verse. The Villain(s) in this movie are rumored for Avengers 3.
 

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Ya know what sucks about this bada$$ helmet...



It's gonna collect dust on a shelf next to Thors :(
 

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Don't forget about Bradley Cooper as Rocket (fuck you guys, I can't wait to hear him).

This trailer gave me the same feelings I had with the first Iron Man trailer. Awesome action, but some great comedic moments.

It's very 5th Element meets Indiana Jones.