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At the very least it's a workable buck.


Flammenwerfer, here I come!
 

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Minor update -

I'm working on replacing the torso with one that's a bit more narrow at the shoulders. This will hopefully facilitate rifle use much more so. As is, this guy looks good carrying the rifle, but he can't quite shoulder the damn thing. Should have pics by Friday.
 

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Thanks, RB. With any luck, the new torso version will be much better.

Almost done with the G98, which includes the late war bayonet support bar. Still waiting on my 21st type 100 smg to convert to the MP18. And finally... I will soon start building the MG08/15.

This project will take some time, but I think it will pay off in the end.
 

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Height comparison with a JOE fig and previous German body. As you can see, the Destro torso is just way too big for a "normal" man.


Not a fan of the new thighs, but that can be remedied. The old torso would be a good start for an "academic fencing" coat.
 

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Ok... with what? Without seriously modifiying the Res SS upper legs, or the leg opening, the top of the legs (at the hip) are much larger in diameter then most other legs. Doesn't play well with other waist pieces. Even on the Destro torso they tended to be a bit snug for maximum movement.

Not a lot of choices for this, imo.

And who says I'm making this for you? :D
 

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What's next for it?

Working bayonet, gas mask and can. I have the can modded and ready, but need to make a decent strap for it. Need a strap on the helmet too, although for casting, that might have to be a seperate item.

Edit: the rifle sling will have to be added later, as well.

After that, I start working on all the Stormtrooper gear. And the MG08/15 of course.
 
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The pack looks great !!

But if you are doing a trench raider wouldn't a grenade satchel/bandelier look better with maybe a Luger with snail mag ?

But for a regular troop the pack would be great.

Maybe I need to dust of my A7V project to go with these guys .:)


 
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Pickel,

Yes, I'll be making the more appropriate gear for the Stormtrooper trench raider. He'll have the armor, grenade bags, and the MP18/snail drum.

Tanks... yeah, would love to have 'em for the trench/no mans land dio planned.
 

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Did this die on the vine ?

Got your PM...

Technically - no. Like a lot of projects, this was put on the back burner, so to speak. I still need to make a few things for it, like the MG08/15 for one. I'd like to create a few different soldiers (AEF, French, etc.), and possibly get them molded/cast. Still want to do a decent sized trench dio one day.

The other thing is... with my growing sculpting abilities, it opens up better ideas/designs for any of this. Ugh... I just need more free time to finish projects like this.
 
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I have several directions to go once I finish my Jagdtiger project and this is one of them.

I wanted to know how far you will be going.

I as well will be doing French as well as Brits ( Germans to ).

The way things are going at least 1-2 months.

There may not be a lot of interest on this forum but there is interest on others.
 

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Go ahead, bro. This isn't anything I plan on having completed soon, and it's more of a personal project than anything else. Look forward to seeing what you come up with.
 

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I have several directions to go once I finish my Jagdtiger project and this is one of them.

I wanted to know how far you will be going.

I as well will be doing French as well as Brits ( Germans to ).

The way things are going at least 1-2 months.

There may not be a lot of interest on this forum but there is interest on others.


Is this before or after the UH-1D/AH-1G doubleheader?

There are a few guys interested in WWI, though it will largely depend on how it's articulated.
 

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Is this before or after the UH-1D/AH-1G doubleheader?

There are a few guys interested in WWI, though it will largely depend on how it's articulated.

During .

I know this is a stupid question but does articulation really matter ? I thought it was the subject matter.

I am really not into figures . I do not really care if I have them on my vehicle or not.

But they are a big thing in 1/18th scale.

I have a bunch of original 21st figs that I was going to use as bases for this series .

Is this a bad idea ?

More pieces in a figure equal to more money I would like to keep the price down as much as possible.
 

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Hmmm... better poseability will win every time, over limitations. Always.

Ok what would be a good base ?

Those Ourwar figs look Ok but the head sculpts are wacked.

I think the only main concern is when the figure is in the prone position.

I do not think any figure made can bend its neck backwards to look realistic.

I think the old 21st figs can stand, kneel and pose running . Is this not enough ?
 

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Well... for what you'd/everyone would want for posing, you're talking a complete custom figure. Or at least a few of it's design features, which would have to be implemented onto every figure, i.e. - extra neck joint.
 

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During .

I know this is a stupid question but does articulation really matter ? I thought it was the subject matter.

I am really not into figures . I do not really care if I have them on my vehicle or not.

But they are a big thing in 1/18th scale.

I have a bunch of original 21st figs that I was going to use as bases for this series .

Is this a bad idea ?

More pieces in a figure equal to more money I would like to keep the price down as much as possible.


Old 21st Germans are alright for the SSHQ set as they don't seem to care about action poses, but most here won't lay down money for t-crotch figures, especially with how much we know they're gonna cost.

If I just wanted WWI figures i would have bought them in a different scale by now.

Ok what would be a good base ?

Those Ourwar figs look Ok but the head sculpts are wacked.

I think the only main concern is when the figure is in the prone position.

I do not think any figure made can bend its neck backwards to look realistic.

I think the old 21st figs can stand, kneel and pose running . Is this not enough ?

Head swaps are so ridiculously simple that it shouldn't be an issue. No, taking a knee, "running" and standing aren't enough. Yes, there are joint systems that allow figures to look up.
 
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I think it comes down to background. Most of us grew up with 3.75" Joes, and anything less poseable is generally unacceptable.
 

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True...

I do remember playing with those little plastic Army men, fighting against my Tamiya 1:35 German troops and Tiger I. Fun times. I had many other limited articulation figures throughout my childhood too, and I can remember wishing they could move, even then!

There's also the mentality of model scene/dio grade stuffs. Those 1:35 guys do some amazing, but obviously static, dios. Personally, I'm not ok with having a more static 1:18 version of any of this. And I doubt most 1:18ers would be ok with it, seeing that we can pretty much get what we want - more articulated. Is it more difficult to design things for more articulation AND look good? Yes, it is. Is it worth it in the end, when you can achieve better poses, and change them whenever you want? Yes, it is.

This is the #1 downfall of all those BBi, 21st, Bravo, etc figures. Something as simple as a better hip joint allows for much more natural, and dynamic posing. Neck is a no-brainer.
 

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I've maintained for years that if someone did post-WWII military figures that combined the detail of Bbi with most of the articulation of ME Joes I'd quit Hasbro altogether.

Hiya is on the right path, they just have to get somewhere other than eBay and BBTS.
 

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^^^ Agreed. Heck... I'm only using Hasbro/Joe parts for my own thing anyway. NOT buying it for what it is, for sure!
 

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That's the thing... imo, you'd have to build a decent base. there's really nothing "off the shelf" that would be fitting.
 

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You could go the Sith_Fire route and shave down a body and build it up to what you want, adding articulation where you want it.
 

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Already too much talk.

Guys who would be interested in this would like the subject matter not so much what you can do with it.

As long as it looks good and is historically accurate I think that they will sell.

At least that is my opinion .

21st sold thousands of their figures .

I do not want to move that many .
 

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Pffft... then they can have static models then. OR... someone else will have to do it justice.

I mean... what's the point? Minimal articulation, as long as it looks ok? Half-assed, imo. With as much as you put into your armor stuffs, to cop-out on the figs just seems like a lame excuse to not have to invest in making the figs better (than typical). Just sayin'.
 
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