Super 7 GI Joe

[NSA]

Whoa I didnt realize they were doing o-ring joes.. I'd seen some of their other offerings and they looked like trash (AND super expensive).

These actually look neat. Are they doing a whole line?

I have some friends who still manage to go to SDCC.. wondering if I can get them to pick some up...

 

[ThunderDan19]

I think the general consensus is that the actual Super7s (7" w/ articulation) are pricey but pretty cool, particularly for the cartoon fans. The Reanimation (4" with nearly zero articulation) are overpriced and generally not pose/play-worthy. Jury is out on the O-rings, since they haven't hit the market yet.

Did this one turn out to be a real thing?

Super7 G.I. Joe ULTIMATES Storm Shadow Version 2 Figure?!?

Super7 G.I. Joe ULTIMATES Storm Shadow Version 2 Figure?!?

toynewsi.com

 

[nacho]

Whoa I didnt realize they were doing o-ring joes.. I'd seen some of their other offerings and they looked like trash (AND super expensive).

These actually look neat. Are they doing a whole line?

I have some friends who still manage to go to SDCC.. wondering if I can get them to pick some up...

Sorry for the confusion. The two SDCC figs are the 7" Ultimates, while the new line of o-rings (known as "ReAction+") are supposed to come out later this year (unknown exactly when).

The good/bad news is that the o-rings are supposed to MSRP for $20. On one hand, hasbro tried selling $20 reissued ARAH o-rings and failed, but S7 has been successfully selling $20 5PoA shit-figures, so getting more complex o-rings at the same price seems like a win. It's all about perspective I suppose. And these might get more interest since they are new sculpts and seem to be sunbow (and maybe comic) focused like their crappy 5 PoA ReAction brethren.

We talk about them mixed together because there is just one Super7 Joe thread. I seem to be the only person around here getting the 7" ultimates, but maybe when the 3.75" o-rings get off the ground and start generating some buzz, they can get their own thread...

Did this one turn out to be a real thing?

Super7 G.I. Joe ULTIMATES Storm Shadow Version 2 Figure?!?

Super7 G.I. Joe ULTIMATES Storm Shadow Version 2 Figure?!?

toynewsi.com

Not sure. It looks legit, but we haven't heard when/where it might come out. Probably a con exclusive later in the year?

 

[NSA]

Ahh okay that makes sense. So the 7" ultimates are giant o-ring? Or do they have more articulation like a 12" doll?

I thought Super7 was the brand not the size.

I'm out of the loop lol I miss my RoC and PoC toys

 

[nacho]

Ahh okay that makes sense. So the 7" ultimates are giant o-ring? Or do they have more articulation like a 12" doll?

I thought Super7 was the brand not the size.

I'm out of the loop lol I miss my RoC and PoC toys

7" Ultimates are not o-ring. They have basic ARAH articulation plus ball-necks, an ab joint, and foot swivel, but that's it. No double jointed knees and elbows, no butterfly joints, no thigh or boot swivels, no drop-down hips. I'd call their articulation ARAH+, but certainly not Classified or Legends class.

Super7 is the company name. They make Joes in 3.75" 5PoA (ReAction), 3.75" o-ring (ReAction+), and 7" (Ultimates).
But Super7 makes stuff for a zillion different franchises. They're collector focused, higher priced, SLOW AS HELL (rarely ever more than two waves a year for any franchise), and character selection/decos are all over the place... really just on the whims of the designers. Just look at the first few waves of their Simpsons ultimates... crazy choices. It's a shame they got in a fight with Disney and lost all those licenses.

 

[ThunderDan19]

... (ReAction), ...

That's what I was trying to say.

 

[nacho]

SDCC Cobra Mortal and Jungle Trap Zartan are up on the S7 website, although I think I'm the only one that cares

G.I. Joe ULTIMATES! - Cobra Mortal – Super7
G.I. Joe ULTIMATES! - Zartan (Jungle Trap) – Super7

And Amazon has a great deal on a ReAction set for City of the Dead (70% off). Normally I hate stupid 5 PoA ReAction figures, but in the case of these episode specific packs, I'm ok with them. They're predominantly static set pieces, so their articulation is nearly irrelevant. And they'll look cool in a scene with the proper ReAction+ figs if/when they ever come out.

Amazon.com: Super7 G.I. Joe City of The Dead Ancient Warrior Pack with Ancient Clay Guardians and Skeleton Soldiers - (6-Pack) 3.75" GI Joe Action Figures with Accessories Collectibles and Retro Toys

 

[nacho]

Jungle Trap Zartan sold out first

Maybe people don't know who Cobra Mortal is? As crazy-rare and valuable as the original figure is, I figured he'd be the one to generate more buzz... and Zartan is the exact same figure that got released a few months ago with one new head and some episode specific accessories. To be fair, he's probably my favorite figure in the line, so sunbow-rific, but I did not expect him to be the hot ticket.

Shows what I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[ThunderDan19]

Just shows that people can still surprise us. I wonder if, due to the revival of popularity of all things Joe right now, general collectors and resellers are joining in. Or maybe more dudes are catching the nostalgia bug, particularly when it comes to the cartoon lines. I doubt nearly as many even remember Mortal (I sure don't), as opposed to all the old favorites from the 'toon.

 

[nacho]

Mortal had zero presence in any media until the WWIII storyline that wrapped up the DDP comic run (epic story, BTW). But he's mostly famous for being a super weird and rare international figure to hardcore ARAH collectors. But I figured his "rareness" had made its way into the collecting populace hive-mind, thus making this homage figure a must-have. And maybe it is, but the Zartan reissue sold out first.

It could be that they weren't made in the same quantities. I'd have hedged my bets on Zartan production since the 1st release is still available at most places for retail. Or it could be that SDCC attendees who purchase on a whim are more likely to spend their dollars on a known character like Zartan over a guy they've never heard of. Not sure about the crossover between hardcore Joe collectors and people on the SDCC attendance list.

Either way, I ordered both like a sucker, and I'm not sorry.

 

[nacho]

New ReAction+ figures... a BBTS Exclusive 2-pack... looks like sufficiently toony eurotrash to me. Sold.

G.I. Joe ReAction+ Crimson Guard Commanders: Tomax And Xamot BBTS 25th Anniversary Exclusive Action Figure 2-Pack (bigbadtoystore.com)

 

[nacho]

I got the first wave of ReAction+ a couple of weeks ago, and I cannot overstate the toony nostalgia rush they induced. I want to pump it into my veins. Having them in-hand was very different than looking at pics on the interwebs. Still fighting the urge to collect a MOC set.

Sure, the twins' heads are a little off-model, and I've learned blueberry stomping SE is an attempt to mimic the comic coloring in issues circa #50 or so. To do that properly, I'll need to repaint a few parts, but I can see where they were headed now. R+ Cobra Commander is sublime. It's impossible to look at the figure and not hear Chris Latta in your head.

And take this post from TFW with a grain of salt, but I'd be perfectly happy if it's true:

"Super7 ReAction+ wave 2 listings are leaking out.

Duke, Ramar, Fatal Fluffy, and Serpentor. All cartoon."

1/18th toony Ramar AND fatal fluffies... yes please, as long as they're the monster version, not in Cute-Gizmo-Gremlin mode. And I hope the FF and Ramar are oversized... because scale. They can't be scary if they're eye to eye with Barbecue or any other rando. I don't know if this helps or hurts the chances of getting Ramar in Ultimates/Deluxe, but I'd love one in scale with the 7" toony figures.

 

[ThunderDan19]

I love that they are doing the cartoon characters, but I haven’t a clue who Ramar and FF’s are.

 

[nacho]

Ramar is the huge conan-looking guy in the bondage gear (voiced by Peter Cullen) that Duke fights in the "Arena of Sport" during the MASS device mini.



Fatal Fluffies are the Gremlins-ripoff monsters in the Pyramid of Darkness mini that the Dreadnoks unleash on the Joes up on the space station.

 

[nacho]

I mean, LOOK at that... if it doesn't stir up the feels, there is no hope.

MOGA - Make O-ring Great Again!

 

[ThunderDan19]

That's a nice mix of nostalgia from the O-ring and joints with a beautiful cartoon upgrade. I wish it was more affordable though. I'm afraid the Super7 price point might exclude all but the most hardcore.

 

[nacho]

Are they high? Yes. But the fact that the o-rings cost the same as a 5PoA ReAction is pretty surprising. I think S7 knows they have a price problem. They can't make an o-ring figure cost the same as a classified figure, but they also can't make them cheaper than their gimpy kenner-esque brethren. And they can't stay in retail if they lower the MSRP, i.e. cut theirs and the retailers' margins, on everything. So $20 it is.

And the Ultimates aren't selling all that great, thus the expected pivot to $35 "deluxe" figures... i.e. ultimates with less heads and accessories... and I'm ok with that. The episode specific pack-in stuff is really neat but also really limited in usefulness if you aren't recreating an exact scene. And I don't need a head with Duke wearing the Time Life Books operator-standing-by headset. I'd rather save $20 per fig and buy or 3d print extras on an as-needed basis.

Speaking of Ultimates, BBTS is doing a big sale, got most of the first three waves at 40-60% off. It's hard to beat an Ultimate 7" fig with all their stuff for $22-$27.

 

[ThunderDan19]

Dang, that's a great price for the Ultimates!

I see what you mean about the O-ring pricing dilemma. Honestly, if they could have made the 5-POAs cheaper (and by that I mean somewhere around the sub $10 they are actually worth) from the start, they would have had a lot more flexibility on both the O's and the S7's. Not sure if they are really that hard to manufacture or if they were just greedy or impatient on getting their investment back at the beginning.

 

[nacho]

I think the retailers like Target wouldn't stock Joe figures priced under $15. Their margins would be too small to justify the shelf space over something else that might move more volume like another peg of wrasslin guys or another big rubber Godzilla/Kong figure. So that's likely why the 5PoA reaction were priced that high.

And for figures that had few other retail options like BTTF, Goonies, Stranger Things, etc... maybe $20 is an acceptable price for casual buyers of a line that only has 5-6 figures. But Joe's depth of characters and decos doesn't fit that model because people don't want to army-build 4" 5 Poa figs at that price.

 

[Videoviper]

They never sell at $20, retail usually discounts it & then they disappear. I have no idea who buys the 5poa Joes. But there is an appeal to anything that wouldn’t be made otherwise.